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<apb18>say awoods: Would you happen to know how to configure Jira send notifications on activity to arbitrary FCREPO tickets?10:40
<awoods>apb18: hello. You want to get notifications on specific, individual tickets?10:41
<apb18>awoods: No, I'd like notification on all activity on any ticket, so I don't miss things10:42
e.g. if somebody creates a ticket, a notification would be generated
<awoods>apb18: yes, let me check the settings. I was assuming all fcrepo-committers were getting such notifications.10:43
* ruebot doesn't get them
only on tickets i'm involved in
<awoods>ruebot/apb18: thanks, I just changed the settings to include fcrepo-committers on all Fedora JIRA updates... please let me know if you are or are not seeing these emails over the next few days.10:46
<apb18>awoods: Thanks!10:47
<awoods>apb18: thanks for raising it10:48
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[fcrepo-webapp-plus] awoods pushed 1 new commit to 4.7.1-RC: https://git.io/vMGZb
fcrepo-webapp-plus/4.7.1-RC ed49aa6 B. Seeger: remove profile for fcrepo-connector-file, which is unmaintained (#53)...
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<awoods>apb18/ruebot: did you just get a notification for fcrepo-2371?10:58
<ruebot>awoods: yep
<awoods>ruebot: great
<ruebot>awoods: i got two
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<awoods>ruebot: over-achiever
<apb18>awoods: Yaaaay
<awoods>apb18: good
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<travis-ci>fcrepo4-exts/fcrepo-webapp-plus#186 (4.7.1-RC - ed49aa6 : B. Seeger): The build passed.
Change view : https://github.com/fcrepo4-exts/fcrepo-webapp-plus/compare/4e0b149be664...ed49aa617401
Build details : https://travis-ci.org/fcrepo4-exts/fcrepo-webapp-plus/builds/189227851
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hello and good morning
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<ajs6f>This project has nothing like the resourcing that such a plan would require.
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<escowles>ruebot: i think you only missed a few words about having a wiki page with basic info on releases that are planned11:14
that's the one that came up at penn state import/export sprint11:15
somebody have that link handy? ...to the prefix wiki page?11:18
<ajs6f>The spec is silent on prefix management and I can't imagine that will change.11:19
escowles: Is this the one?: https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/FCREPO-237511:21
<escowles>apb18: yep
<apb18>404 would seem to be the most intuitive to me - there's no resource at the URI.11:22
.. but in any case, not blocker for point release
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<apb18>Is anybody hearing voice on the call, or did I silently drop off?11:34
<awoods>apb18: you must have dropped
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<bseeger>awoods: you summed that up really well.11:40
<barmintor>ruebot's question doesn't seem like it's going to be answered on a call, but it's definitely important11:43
<ajs6f>Lots of talk about perf, but very few parties have put forward concrete requirements.11:44
eddies complained (rightly) about this same issue frequently.
<escowles>and i think the recent work on refactoring the identifier translation and using mode's lucene cache to improve performance is a good example: lots of people were interested, several did some good work, but it hasn't been brought to any real conclusion
<barmintor>ajs6f++, but also: things are difficult when we get to the MODE wall. And escowles++, we never even got to a conclusion about mysql on unix sockets (for example)11:45
<escowles>ajs6f: yep, totally agree — though i expect many have the same situation i have: my hard requirements are met, but i'd really like it to be much faster11:46
<ajs6f>barmintor: Right, but (channels eddies) resourcing requires an actionable goal, which normally means numbers. How much faster? How many bits per second through what operation path?11:48
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<ajs6f>The best use case we ever got was from Frank Asseg. He had numbers, tests, he gave us solid feedback.
<barmintor>ajs6f: yeah. Only wanted to add that Princeton worked towards some requirements there, but we reached an impasse with an underlying library.
<ajs6f>He wasn't satisfied, but at least the interaction was concrete.
<ajs6f>barmintor: Maybe what ruebot is asking (partly) is "why didn't those requirements get further?"
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<ajs6f>How did that feed into the perf group?
<barmintor>it was the root of the "Real World Performance" thread
<ajs6f>barmintor: Well, that was useful, certainly.11:51
<ruebot>groups goals were to identify benchmarks, and test various releases to identify possible performance issues, and then we would put resources there
<ajs6f>barmintor: but it brings us back to escowles point above about the outcome-less-ness of that effort.
<barmintor>ajs6f: indeed11:52
<escowles>i think part of the problem is that it takes a rare confluence of developer resources and an institution with real-world performance issues they are working through — and even then, there's no guarantee that it will yield concrete results
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<ajs6f>I do not understand that to be the case, but I may be wrong.
I understood acoburn to have let that go for good.
I want to tell those people: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8ekUBZrQdcs/VfE_u-JR9mI/AAAAAAAAA3o/HzKgrYFAxwA/s640/Value-www-scarfolk-blogspot-com.jpg11:54
<ajs6f>It _is_ too bad. It is also symptomatic.11:56
<barmintor>awoods: we also had a case in which two changes, both useful, touched 2/3 of the codebase11:57
* ruebot needs to drop in a moment for the PCDM call
<barmintor>awoods: and we had to pick one, and relegate the other to "you're probably doing it over"
<ruebot>can somebody pick up notes?
<ajs6f>3 minutes left on this call.
<ruebot>happy new year :-)11:58
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<ruebot>awoods: draft of the notes are up. went down hill after i had to talk a lot12:10
<awoods>ruebot: thanks
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<ruebot>awoods, bseeger: https://github.com/Islandora-CLAW/CLAW/issues/47714:28
<awoods>thanks, ruebot14:29
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[fcrepo4] escowles created test-ns (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vMZ2w
fcrepo4/test-ns 1038cdb Esmé Cowles: Restoring test namespace
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[fcrepo4] escowles opened pull request #1153: Restoring test namespace (4.7.1-RC...test-ns) https://git.io/vMZ2j
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[fcrepo4] escowles closed pull request #1152: Add a patch to the RDF output framework to serialize RDF with their S… (4.7.1-RC...fcrepo-2374-rc4.7.1) https://git.io/vMscL
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fcrepo4/fcrepo4#4883 (test-ns - 1038cdb : Esmé Cowles): The build passed.
Change view : https://github.com/fcrepo4/fcrepo4/commit/1038cdb001ec
Build details : https://travis-ci.org/fcrepo4/fcrepo4/builds/189376806
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