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<ajs6f>awoods: If I'm doing 4.6.0 release management, I am not taking up LTS responsibility for that. (Frankly, I'm not at all enthused about introducing LTS as an idea right now.)10:20
<acoburn>ajs6f: IMO, I think we need a defined spec and a tck before we talk about LTS10:21
<awoods>ajs6f: I don't think being release manager carries any responsibilities beyond the actual release.
<ajs6f>awoods: Okay, cool. I'm less comfortable with commitment than my wife, two children, state job, and mortgage would make you think.10:22
<awoods>ajs6f: The 4.6 to 4.7 migration hurdle will be high for many installations. We need to offer some form of well-defined back-porting support for 4.6... we do not need to call it LTS.10:24
<ajs6f>awoods: We need to offer some kind of well-restrained backporting support. You are essentially talking about doubling costs. That is not a strain against which a small group can maintain for very long/10:25
<awoods>ajs6f: agreed. I am referring to support for a limited, defined amount of time for back-porting of blocker bugs and critical security patches.10:27
ajs6f: we must avoid the situation where an installation is on 4.6 and a blocker bug renders some or all of their repository unusable, and they are not able to perform a migration to 4.7 in that state.10:31
<ajs6f>awoods: That's a call for a specific utility the use of which results in a 4.7 repo, not backporting.
<awoods>ajs6f: I wish it were that simple.10:32
<ajs6f>awoods: Wish granted.
<awoods>ajs6f: I wish for a piece of carrot cake.10:33
<ajs6f>awoods: No, that's a selfish wish. You need to build some character.10:34
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[fcrepo4] awoods pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vKWL9
fcrepo4/master a58f5a0 Aaron Coburn: Remove fcrepo-kernel-api dependency on javax.servlet.http package (#1061)...
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<f4jenkins>Project fcrepo4 build #3328: FAILURE in 1 min 26 sec: http://jenkins.fcrepo.org/job/fcrepo4/3328/12:11
awoods: Remove fcrepo-kernel-api dependency on javax.servlet.http package (#1061)
<ajs6f>Is anyone else suddenly having problems using Github's website?12:13
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<ajs6f>awoods: I have some more stuff about #1057 but Github is being stupid and won't let me log in.12:15
<awoods>ajs6f: I am sure it will return.12:16
<ajs6f>awoods: How do you know? are you behind this?12:17
<awoods>ajs6f: no, just reflecting past experiences.
<ajs6f>awoods: Man, I hate all this computer crap. I wish we could go back to software development before all this digital stuff took over.12:18
<whikloj>ajs6f: github seems to be working great, perhaps it is localized to your zip code?12:24
<ajs6f>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkUdjlQy3rk # simple, reliable, inexpensive
<whikloj>does it do syntax checking?12:25
<ajs6f>whikloj: dchandekstark's link reports in bold red type: "We are investigating an increased exception rate."
whikloj: Yes. Yes, it does.
<whikloj>ajs6f: cool, could we get a bunch with Fedora logos on them?12:32
<ajs6f>whikloj Well, dwilcox won't even get album covers printed, so I"m not holding my breath.
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fcrepo4/fcrepo4#4567 (master - a58f5a0 : Aaron Coburn): The build passed.
Change view : https://github.com/fcrepo4/fcrepo4/compare/95e796273101...a58f5a053928
Build details : https://travis-ci.org/fcrepo4/fcrepo4/builds/144207036
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<whikloj>ajs6f: but these are functional tools... vital in the growing realm of Fedora's dominance over ancient adding machines
<ajs6f>whikloj: I think th lesson here today is that Fedora is _not_ dominant over ancient adding machines and won't be until we stop trying to use underperforming silicon technology and gear up to the power of polished wood.12:34
<whikloj>ajs6f: I'm sold, add it to the agenda12:35
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