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[fcrepo4-vagrant] awoods pushed 1 new commit to 4.5.1-RC: https://git.io/vVCmL
fcrepo4-vagrant/4.5.1-RC 681c678 Andrew Woods: Update config for 4.5.1 RC testing
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[fcrepo4-vagrant] awoods tagged fcrepo4-vagrant-4.5.1-RC-1 at 6014567: https://git.io/vVCmP
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[fcrepo-webapp-plus] awoods deleted fcrepo-webapp-plus-4.5.1-RC-1 at 12d5853: https://git.io/vVCYh
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[fcrepo-webapp-plus] awoods tagged fcrepo-webapp-plus-4.5.1-RC-1 at 4.5.1-RC: https://git.io/vVsk8
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fcrepo4-exts/fcrepo-webapp-plus#119 (fcrepo-webapp-plus-4.5.1-RC-1 - 0085576 : Jared Whiklo): The build passed.
Change view : https://github.com/fcrepo4-exts/fcrepo-webapp-plus/compare/fcrepo-webapp-plus-4.5.1-RC-1
Build details : https://travis-ci.org/fcrepo4-exts/fcrepo-webapp-plus/builds/120061466
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<awoods>whikloj/escowles_: I am inclined to send out the 4.5.1-RC notice to the community... unless you think the Windows IT failure should hold that up. Thoughts?
<whikloj>awoods: What is our requirements for support on the Windows side? I see it is "just" the RDF integration suite.09:27
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<whikloj>awoods: I don't totally understand that suite, but the test file it fails on seems to have some unique characters, for instance "˜Derœ" surrounded (in my viewer) by diamonds09:31
<awoods>whikloj: yes, I am not too concerned about that test failure09:32
<whikloj>awoods: Yeah, so I think we can send out the notice09:33
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[fcrepo4] awoods tagged fcrepo-4.5.1-RC-1 at 33ea9fc: https://git.io/vVCnV
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<awoods>whikloj: I updated: https://github.com/fcrepo4-exts/fcrepo-webapp-plus/releases/tag/fcrepo-webapp-plus-4.5.1-RC-1 based on the update rc-1 tag...09:47
whikloj: but neglected to rename those artifacts with the RC-1 naming convention.
<awoods>whikloj: I am not going to have time to rename/re-upload them :(09:48
whikloj: would you be able to download those artifacts, and re-upload them with the correct names?
<whikloj>awoods: sure
whikloj: also, could you send out the 4.5.1 Release Candidate message? Here is an example: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/fedora-tech/1QSZqJt_RQ4/zS6ahycjAAAJ09:51
<whikloj>awoods: ok, updated https://github.com/fcrepo4-exts/fcrepo-webapp-plus/releases/tag/fcrepo-webapp-plus-4.5.1-RC-1
<awoods>whikloj: great, thanks. Are those new artifacts built off of the updated RC-1 branch?09:53
<whikloj>awoods: no I downloaded the ones from the release page, renamed them and re-uploaded them
<awoods>whikloj: perfect09:54
whikloj: those are updated artifacts, thanks.
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<awoods>whikloj: as for the release candidate message, I think we are targeting: April 2209:56
for the release
if all goes well
<whikloj>awoods: ok, I'll get the message out in the next hour
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fcrepo4/fcrepo4#4392 (fcrepo-4.5.1-RC-1 - aeda664 : Aaron Coburn): The build passed.
Change view : https://github.com/fcrepo4/fcrepo4/compare/fcrepo-4.5.1-RC-1
Build details : https://travis-ci.org/fcrepo4/fcrepo4/builds/120069620
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<acoburn>awoods: fyi, all the integration tests from fcrepo-camel-toolbox pass when run against 4.5.1-RC10:36
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<whikloj>awoods: FYI, Release message sent, I had to build and upload the one-click web-app to the fcrepo4 release page. I think its fine, but maybe check to make sure I got the correct version. When you have a moment
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<ajs6f>whikloj: Did you seriously rickroll the release announcement?10:59
whikloj: Because that is a very good thing, if you did.
<whikloj>ajs6f: I guess you'll have to check all the links
<ajs6f>whikloj: I'm not a gambling man. I'll just go directly to the famous video and take my medicine.
<ajs6f>whikloj++ # a good example of WWFD: What Would Fedo Do?11:00
<whikloj>ajs6f: I learned from the best https://twitter.com/ruebot/status/715875819533414402
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<whikloj>When you check fixity, can you pass a hash to do the comparison?12:16
<ajs6f>Idon't think so, but I don't know much about that stuff.12:17
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<whikloj>ok thanks, I don't see anything in the docs, but... you know fedora
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[fcrepo-camel] acoburn opened pull request #105: Update camel/fcrepo dependencies (master...fcrepo-1970) https://git.io/vVCpW
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awoods: looks like jenkins needs to be restarted13:19
<tjohnson>ajs6f: re: https://github.com/fcrepo4-labs/derby/issues/11 ...
<ajs6f>tjohnson: Aye.
<tjohnson>i think the main issue was a view of Fedora as a database vs a REST service13:20
several people at LDCX were vocal about wanting something they can *query*13:21
and were reticent to lose the limited capacity that they have to crawl their own repository
<ajs6f>tjohnson: I am starting to get really sick of that. I understand the importance of query. I also understand the importance of correct architecture. I also understand what Fedora -is-: an object repository.
tjohnson: That is the purpose of durable persistence. If they want to crawl their repos, fine. They should use the nice event-driven framework provided to serialize their repo and crawl it from today 'til tomorrow.13:22
tjohnson: Well, not the _purpose_, maybe, but a supported use.13:23
<tjohnson>:) i figured you'd feel that way. I pretty much agree.
<ajs6f>tjohnson: "Don't be on the Web, be part of it!"
<tjohnson>I just happened to be on that issue page, and wanted to brain dump the concerns expressed at that meeting
the discussion from that issue, and most of our previous chat on this topic was replayed there, and some people came to the opposite conclusion. So it seemed worth recording13:24
<ajs6f>tjohnson: I appreciate that. I understand that LDCX is a heady experience for the attendees, but I also see it as very exclusive. Anything that comes out of there (and many good ideas do) needs to get reported into the public discussion before much else happens, for my money.
<tjohnson>in the meanwhile, I still think we got it right :)
<ajs6f>tjohnson: I agree. I think we need to bring the discussions to the spec. That's where the rubber will rub the road.13:25
<ajs6f>tjohnson; Speaking of which, what was the name of the doc editor you recommended for spec-writing? The question came up the other day on the call and I couldn't remember.
awoods: ^^^
<tjohnson>note: "It has no means to fix the bizarre process fixations of your group's chair, and sadly it cannot replace RFC 2119 with the more accurate RFC 6919."13:27
also, you MAY WISH TO use rfc6919 :)13:28
<ajs6f>tjohnson: Well, I think we're okay there. We avoid the first problem via acephaly and the second by a total lack of enforcement for any binding language.13:29
Happy April Fool's, everyone.
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<sprater>quick question about the Release testing of 4.5.1-RC, one-click run: the SPARQL update tests are using the REST API directly, not through the web interface, correct?13:49
i.e.: https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FEDORA45/RESTful+HTTP+API#RESTfulHTTPAPI-GreenPATCHModifythetriplesassociatedwitharesourcewithSPARQL-Update
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<whikloj>sprater: Sorry I missed you, you're referring to some integration tests?13:59
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<ajs6f>sprater: Actually, in theory, the web interface is just forms that hit the REST API. In theory.
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<whikloj>Apparently when you create a version you get a 201 Created back... wiki says 204 No Content. Change or docs error?
Docs also say using the same Slug more than once will get you a 409 error, code says "it will silently be reassigned to describe this version"14:52
So then how do you access the old version?
ahhh code comment is wrong14:53
<ajs6f>201 would be right, there, I think.
<whikloj>ajs6f: is there a process to update the REST API or can I just do it?15:01
<ajs6f>whikloj: You mean update the docs?
<whikloj>ajs6f: yes, sorry. poor choice of words https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FEDORA4x/RESTful+HTTP+API#RESTfulHTTPAPI-BluePOSTCreateanewversionofanobject15:02
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<ajs6f>whikloj: Eh, you're a committer, this is pretty open and shur. I'd just do it. awoods: ^^^
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[fcrepo-camel-toolbox] acoburn opened pull request #74: update dependencies (master...fcrepo-1971) https://git.io/vVWlJ
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[fcrepo-camel] acoburn opened pull request #106: Update camel documentation page with Fedora theme (gh-pages...fcrepo-1972) https://git.io/vVlGR
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[fcrepo-camel-toolbox] acoburn opened pull request #75: Update camel documentation page with Fedora theme (gh-pages...fcrepo-1972) https://git.io/vVlnH
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