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[fcrepo4] cbeer pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/w3PLcg
fcrepo4/master f9edd2f Chris Beer: support the Atom Slug: header to provide the name of the node to create on POST to an existing collection node
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[fcrepo4] fasseg tagged fcrepo-4.0.0-scape at c88c63b: http://git.io/iSQnug
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<fasseg>I added this tag so i had a stable version as a backend for the SCAPE project05:23
in case you were wondering...
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<pivotal-bot>Andrew Woods edited "make islandora work with latest build of fcrepo4. " https://www.pivotaltracker.com/story/show/4835140109:36
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<awoods>osmandin: I assume you have looked at the module: fcrepo-storage-policy?11:48
The idea came up today regarding configuration info that does/will reside within the repository. It seems like a consistent jcr location would be in order.11:52
The only pattern I currently see for this type of content is under the fcrepo-transform project, where "/fedora:system/fedora:transform" is used.11:54
Does "/fedora:system/<scope>" seem like a reasonable pathway?
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[fcrepo4] cbeer pushed 4 new commits to master: http://git.io/ARKe4A
fcrepo4/master 640ccac Chris Beer: remove the /objects node from our test suite.
fcrepo4/master aa99c18 Chris Beer: use PATCH method to send SPARQL-Update queries to the resource
fcrepo4/master 1758b87 Chris Beer: remove POST with a SPARQL-Update payload (implementations should use PATCH instead), and support creating objects with SPARQL-Update or RDF payloads
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<osmandin>awoods: that sounds reasonable for now. will think and investigate further12:25
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awoods/cbeer: ping?14:34
<cbeer>ajs6f: pong
<ajs6f>cbeer: I was going to fool around with/finish the translation of the triple generation contract (for extensibility/wire-ibilty), but I'm going to wait until you/awoods/al. have firmed up the nature of JCR-housed config.14:35
(Which, to my mind, is of the first importance.)14:36
<cbeer>ajs6f: no news from me14:40
<ajs6f>That's cool. This is something that ought to be done right the first time.
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<awoods>ajs6f: The "/fedora:system/<scope>" approach seems reasonable. Do you have an alternate suggestion?15:01
<ajs6f>For the oauth scope recordation?15:02
Or for cofig scopes?
<awoods>I was suggesting a general location pattern for config details.15:03
<ajs6f>Right. Yeah, that sounds right. Do we want to privilege some scopes to the core via namespace, i.e.15:04
Or just establish the pattern and let the good times roll?
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<awoods>I would suggest it depends on the feature15:05
solidly core features could have a privileged namespace
<ajs6f>So… what would be the core features that deserve protection?
Triple generation?
<awoods>I am not sure we have come across one yet
<ajs6f>Auth config?
Okay. So we reserve the right to namespace some pieces of config out of instance-mutability?15:06
But choose to not yet exercise it?
<ajs6f>I'm cool with that.15:07
<awoods>as for auth... it is clear that some folk definitely do not want auth config in the repo.
so reserving a namespace for them seems, unfriendly.
<ajs6f>Really? I thought some folk definitely do not want auth config only available through the repo.
I didn't know anyone had a problem with it being available through the repo but also available by other means.
(Chosen by the integrator.)15:08
<awoods>When sprater gets tied into the conversation, we will hear the other perspective.
<ajs6f>I thought we heard that yesterday...?
<awoods>yes and no
<ajs6f>Are you saying Scott is schizoid?15:09
<awoods>sprater was on the line much before you joined.
<ajs6f>'Cause he's always seemed pretty stable to me.
<awoods>I think he is a rock.
<ajs6f>Scott Prater rocks as hard as anyone from Wisconsin possibly can.15:10
I don't want to put anything in the privileged category now.
I want to be able to do that when we need to.
<awoods>sounds right
<awoods>rock on
<ajs6f>So… e.g. fedora:system/triplegeneration?
<awoods>or "/fedora:system/fedora:triplegeneration"15:12
<ajs6f>So… triple generation _is_ privileged?
Or does the fedora: namespace carry no semantic?
(Other that, we wrote it, not you.)15:13
<awoods>I was assuming "privileged" meant that a namespace was automatically registered on repo startup.
what does "privileged" mean to you?15:14
<ajs6f>I was suggesting it as meaning that integrators/users cannot mutate it. Or its meaning. Or its inheritance. Or what comes within its remit by indirect means.
So fedora:system/fedora:triplegeneration is not available to API manipulation.15:15
(Which would be, in my mind, a bad example.)
(It should be.)
Autoregistered is a useful quality, but it's not the same as "privileged", to me.15:16
It's a matter of convenience vs. a matter of a quality that persists for the lifetime of a repo.
<awoods>Can we not allow a namespace to be "privileged" in your definition for installations that use that feature but not privileged for installations that do not?
<ajs6f>I think that's a confusing road.
It points to a deeper problem:15:17
we have no genuine modularity.
To choose a feature or choose not-a-feature implies some mechanism by which that choice is made real.
Currently, the closest thing we have is Spring XML.15:18
And lots of Maven trickery.
These two things do not a modularization framework make.
But that's another epic.
<awoods>Of course we can not foresee all potential namespaces that will be needed in the future...15:19
<ajs6f>But it's not unrelated: there's a reason that OSGi chose to make Configuration Admin a core service.
So, we can't.
No. we can't. But we can reserve some (one).
If we think that we should.
Maybe nothing about the agglomeration of services that composes a running repo is sacred?15:20
Maybe it's _all_ a matter of choice?
That's not unreasonable, to ,e.
<awoods>I am trying to sort out where the line of your reasoning is between philosophical and practical...15:21
<ajs6f>cbeer and barmintor can tell you that such a quest is doomed to noble failure.15:22
<awoods>I can accept that
<ajs6f>Or to put it more usefully, the line is somewhere between one beer and another.
I really think we can declare all config to be mutable.15:23
I just want us to be clear about what we mean by "fedora:".
<awoods>and that it should generally be found within the repo at: /fedora:system/fedora:<scope>15:24
how many PBs did SCAPE have in mind?15:25
<ajs6f>Really? So my new insane OWL Full inference extension module and Joe Blow's genuinely useful bitstream characterization module and the kernel itself all have just the same right use that namespace?
Because it is a namespace. it's not just a prefix for identifiers.
<awoods>it goes back to your question of what "fedora:" means...15:26
^^^ PB question
<cbeer>why does it need to be fedora:<scope>? just (some module-defined namespace):<scope> should be ok, right?15:27
My question is: do we want to declare now
<awoods>what about the system portion: /fedora:system/...
What does "fedora:" actually mean?
Besides "the committers did this".15:28
<cbeer>oh. info:fedora/
<ajs6f>We're fixing that.
<awoods>I would suggest that in this context, "fedora:" means that it is required by core fedora.15:29
<ajs6f>Then nothing we've done qualifies, I think.15:30
<cbeer>i'd define "fedora:" as just not your data in your repository… i guess that gets blurry when we start putting transforms and services in a fedora: namespace though
maybe.. architecture-specific configuration magic?15:31
<ajs6f>Right. Are there any transforms or services that are core? The kernel, to my mind, is the definition of core.
<cbeer>core, no. default, maybe?
<ajs6f>Sure. But default is different.
Default is instantiated in build and publication.15:32
Core is instantiated in code.
You can't start a repo without core.
<awoods>I can see core needing a place for config details...15:33
<ajs6f>You have to make a choice(s) to start a repo without default.
Sure, and that's where "fedora:system/fedora:*" makes sense.
<awoods>there needs to be a place that can be relied upon to exist and not be overwritten
yes, "fedora:system" seems reasonable for such a place15:34
<ajs6f>That's "privileged" /fedora:system/fedora:*.
No, fedora:system:fedora:*, not fedora:system:*, or no?
fedora:system/* implies
this is not content, it's config.15:35
<awoods>different thread: does anyone know the PB size of the SCAPE collection?
<ajs6f>fedora:system/fedora:* implies that this is privileged config that shouldn't be altered.
What is a PB? Petabyte?
Or maybe 1.
<awoods>that covers the range15:36
<ajs6f>eddies promised us billions and billions of items.
But he never gave a figure for bytes.
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<pivotal-bot__>Andrew Woods edited "Update policy driven storage to move configuration from Spring into the JCR tree." https://www.pivotaltracker.com/story/show/4905979916:08
<osmandin>Trying to add to fcrepo-policy. It seems that fcrepo-kernel has dependency fcrepo-storage-policy, so it seems that nothing can be called from kernel due to cyclical dependency (unlike fcrepo-transform)16:19
<awoods>osmandin: any reason not to directly update fcrepo-storage-policy?16:21
osmandin: It would be ideal if you put you work on a branch.
<osmandin>kernel would be a cyclical dependency..because storage-policy is kernel's dependency16:22
yes, it'll be in my forked branch16:23
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<awoods>osmandin: do you actually see where kernel uses storage-policy?
<gregjansen>kernel would probably use it to generate a storage hint that is passed to the binary store logic16:26
<osmandin>awoods: I think I saw it in datastreamservice
<jongibson>awoods: did we settle on, is our call at 4pm central or 6pm?
<awoods>yes to all. PolicyDecisionPoint is just is a few places.
jongibson: our call is at 6pm ET (5pm CT)16:27
<jongibson>awoods: thx, i'll be there
<awoods>It would be nice to break that dependency from kernel16:28
<gregjansen>awoods: CDI?
<awoods>Any injection would do.
<ajs6f> CDI +116:29
<awoods>I may want to turn PolicyDecisionPoint into an interface
an have that interface in a module other than fcrepo-storage-policy
<gregjansen>I'd also support any move to use the term "policy" less often.
<ajs6f>Is that our new pilcy?16:30
<gregjansen>the new word is "pilcy"
<awoods>how about paul-see
<ajs6f>Too easy to confuse with Paul from DGI.
<osmandin>to confirm, it seems that org.fcrepo.binary.PolicyDecisionPoint in kernel is the only reference16:31
in DataStreamService.java
<awoods>osmandin: yes, PDP is the only class I see in kernel or any other module.16:32
<ajs6f>Shouldn't SOnary be telling us about this sort of thing?16:33
<awoods>in Datastream and DatastreamService
fyi: http://sonar.fcrepo.org/
<ajs6f>awoods: I don't see anything there. It's inspecting code, and it reports out package tangles, but not library loops.16:34
Maybe there's Maven wizardry we can employ?16:35
<awoods>osmandin is creating a new module
that introduces a cycle.16:36
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<ajs6f>I thought he was saying that a cycle already exists?16:37
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<osmandin>No, it' doesn't exist but to add any code to storage policy inntroduces it
otherwise it would be compiling16:39
it wouldn't be, imean
<ajs6f>Oh… okay. So what we have is some unclearness as to the structure at the very bottom.
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<awoods>gregjansen: which jaxrs2.0 features are you waiting on?16:57
<gregjansen>awoods and others: I'd welcome feedback on this authz draft.. https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FF/Authentication+and+Authorization
awoods: I will see if I can avoid it. I'd like to do a global interception of our REST calls and I thought that required 2.016:58
if I can do that, then I can add the pep without any changes to http-api
<awoods>you should be able to do that with servlet filters, yes.16:59
<gregjansen>awoods: tho, there are liabilities to configuration by dropping in a jar..
servlet filters don't get all our nifty resource annotations17:01
I was hoping not to replicate much of the request processing that happens at the JAX-RS level
<awoods>sure, I was just saying that changing the api should not be required.
<gregjansen>i don't get it17:02
oh the jax-rs 2.0 api, yeah I think you're right
<awoods>oh... you were talking about fcrepo-http-api17:03
<gregjansen>yeah, trying to piggyback on our fcrepo-http-api where possible in terms of grokking the request into a specific kind of action..17:04
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<gregjansen>a javax.ws.rs.ext.ReaderInterceptor might do the trick. I'
m experimenting
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<gregjansen>awoods: thx17:08
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[fcrepo4] cbeer created new-node-location-fcr-content (+1 new commit): http://git.io/OU5q8w
fcrepo4/new-node-location-fcr-content 8306cfe Chris Beer: make sure we send the right Location header back when POSTing binary content to create a new node
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[fcrepo4] cbeer opened pull request #105: make sure we send the right Location header back when POSTing binary content to create a new node (master...new-node-location-fcr-content) http://git.io/WGKZWA
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