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| <cbeer> | jonathangee: i think we have a couple business items to raise after the standup. | 10:51 |
| i don't know how you guys normally handle that kind of thing | ||
| <ajs6f> | Chris: what are you thinking of particularly? | 10:52 |
| <cbeer> | - java package namespace | |
| - delaying our cycles by a day (or telling SG to meeting mondays.) | ||
| <ajs6f> | Right. Both good things to nail down. | |
| <cbeer> | not clear they need to happen synchronously, but maybe people want to. | 10:53 |
| <ajs6f> | The namespace thing for the two 3.x-compatible efforts could stay with org.fcrepo and org.akubraproaject. | |
| <cbeer> | i feel like i knew more last night than right now. | |
| <ajs6f> | I think we need to know the the name of the greenfield effort to name it in Java/Maven land. | |
| Yeah, I didn't realize we had any slip between TT and SG. | 10:54 | |
| P.S. I'm still voting for Trilby. | ||
| Github shouldn't get a veto on our project name. | ||
| How about org.fcrepo.backfromthedead? | 10:55 | |
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| <cbeer> | ok. time to look up the code | |
| just when i learned stanfords. | ||
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| <jonathangee> | bah | |
| i can't get connected to the conference line | 11:03 | |
| have to add some Skype credit to call in | ||
| <cbeer> | jonathangee: via skype? | |
| <jonathangee> | be there soon | |
| <cbeer> | yeah, i saw that too | |
| <jonathangee> | I can call everyone if that works | |
| or i'll just add Skype creds | ||
| <ajs6f> | I'm fine with that— that's why I nominated you, J. | |
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| <ajs6f> | E.— we're trying to get the call started, the usual trouble with FreeConferenceCallHD | 11:04 |
| <barmintor> | I've actually been dialing in via google chat :P | |
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| <cbeer> | jonathangee: eddie might conference you in | |
| <jonathangee> | okay | |
| <ajs6f> | Just used google-talk, worked well. | 11:05 |
| <cbeer> | +1 | 11:08 |
| <JasonDGI> | +1 | 11:09 |
| <ajs6f> | No problem here. | |
| <barmintor> | reassign it | 11:11 |
| <cbeer> | jonathangee: next time, i vote you should exercise scrummaster power to define a reporting order. | 11:15 |
| <ajs6f> | +1 | |
| <jonathangee> | will do | |
| i'm going to start a wiki page for each scrum, where we can agenda non-scrum things and keep notes from each scrum | 11:16 | |
| i'll put the order there | ||
| <cbeer> | summoned! | 11:17 |
| https://github.com/futures/icemelt | 11:21 | |
| <jonathangee> | has anyone taken a look at this before: http://www.jboss.org/modeshape | |
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| <ajs6f> | Looks impressive… I seem to remember it as being descended from some other OS project, but can't recall it. | 11:23 |
| <cbeer> | +1 | |
| barmintor: let me know if/how i can actually help, otherwise i'll keep tinkering and making a big java mess | 11:25 | |
| <jonathangee> | cbeer: Can you send out an email to the list about naming? | 11:40 |
| <cbeer> | jonathangee: will do. | 11:41 |
| want to make me a ticket to remind me to send an email? :P | ||
| <jonathangee> | hahah | |
| <cbeer> | oh, i remember the other things i wanted to offer as business items. | |
| - story points to real-world effort correlation. i think we talked about this in DC, but maybe after folk started to leave? | 11:42 | |
| - writing smaller stories. | ||
| i think the akubra/glacier read/write plugin is too big, but probably not worth trying to correct at this point | 11:43 | |
| <jonathangee> | i would agree | |
| <cbeer> | but good process notes for sprint 1. | |
| <jonathangee> | what size points do we have 1-8 I think? | |
| <ajs6f> | This is my difficulty with a two-type system and no dependency tracking. | |
| <cbeer> | 0-7, fibonacci, i think | |
| <ajs6f> | It's hard to get the right granularity, sometimes. | |
| <cbeer> | ajs6f: i'm not so sure. i think the glacier story could be split up as follows: | 11:44 |
| - write the akubra output stream => glacier piece | ||
| s/akubra//, really. | ||
| <jonathangee> | what did we decide for real world correlation of story points in DC? | |
| <cbeer> | - write the glacier => input stream | |
| - write the akubra-land piece | ||
| - make someone who understands spring write the configuration piece | 11:45 | |
| that's better than a massive 5pt story | ||
| jonathangee: i think it was 1/2 a day of effort. | ||
| <ajs6f> | Agreed. I'm more concerned about the cross-dependencies. | |
| <cbeer> | but we decided that after assigning points | |
| ajs6f: this is agile, there's no such thing! everything is interchangable, just blocked :P | 11:46 | |
| i found a git/pivotal plugin the other day | ||
| <ajs6f> | So it's a SEDA architecture for Taylorizing software development. | |
| <cbeer> | and you just pull tickets from a queue. | |
| (and checks out a feature branch, etc, etc) | ||
| <jonathangee> | i think that works, so the maximum length of a story we can have is 4 days effort | |
| <ajs6f> | Do we install that plugin to our pivotal instance? | |
| Or get them to, I should say. | 11:47 | |
| <cbeer> | ajs6f: no, it's a git-land plugin that calls to the pivotal api | |
| <ajs6f> | Cool. | |
| <cbeer> | except that we're all supposed to be equivalent | |
| and not have blockers | ||
| agile people are weird. | ||
| <ajs6f> | We may still change our minds about issue tracking, but we're not likely to change our minds about git. | |
| "we're all supposed to be equivalent" = Taylorization. | 11:48 | |
| "not have blockers" = SEDA | ||
| This is cute: https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/MODE/Sequencing | ||
| Very powerful, but it would depend entirely on ModeShape. | 11:49 | |
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| <cbeer> | barmintor: ping? | 16:09 |
| <barmintor> | yo | |
| <cbeer> | anything i should do/not do for the akubra glacier stuff> | |
| <barmintor> | nope | 16:10 |
| <cbeer> | ok. i'll look at hooking up glacier reading to an inputstream | |
| i'm annoyed there isn't a mid-level aws glacier api | 16:11 | |
| or at least a high-level streaming api | ||
| oh, and barmintor, is eclipse as good an IDE for this as any, or should i use something else? | 16:14 | |
| <barmintor> | I use eclipse | 16:15 |
| <cbeer> | good enough for me | |
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| icemelt/master fa333f0 Chris Beer: use request.env to pluck out http headers | ||
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