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https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FF/2017-11-16+-+Fedora+Tech+Meeting in 6 minutes...
<benpennell>i'm on the call11:03
<whikloj>https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/FCREPO-263811:07
https://github.com/fcrepo4/fcrepo4/commit/a2eb41b87b91a83cee7e0e825b5776e4e28e391511:16
<bseeger>google thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/fedora-community/Ok9L9oosPsE11:33
<peichman1>beta++11:41
whikloj: was that Carrick who was doing the testing?11:43
<whikloj>peichman1: Colin Brittle
https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FEDORAAPI/Fedora+API+Spec+and+Delta+Document+Verification11:44
<benpennell>thanks bethany!11:56
this isn't related to any ongoing tickets, but are etags supposed to change when a generated membership property is added to a container?11:57
<whikloj>benpennell: I remember a discussion about this...there might be a JIRA ticket11:58
<bseeger>there is this one: https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/FCREPO-174211:59
<benpennell>and re: whether to do a beta for fcrepo5, not totally relevant, but hyrax has recently been working on their release workflow for that as well and have a document that might be worth looking at for how they handle moving from beta to rc https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/samvera/Hyrax+Testing+and+Release+Process12:00
bseeger whikloj: thanks for finding that, i'm not clear on if inbound reference means "membership references child" or "container adds member"12:02
<bseeger>benpennell — thanks for sharing that document - very interesting to look at12:04
<whikloj>benpennell: basically it means the reference is stored on another resource, and points to the resource you are looking at
<benpennell>so inbound reference to child would be: <container> <pcdm:hasMember> <child>?12:06
the situation i'm trying to work out how to deal with is the container adds a pcdm:hasMember relation from an IndirectContainer, but the container's etag isn't updated so caching mechanisms don't know the properties have changed12:08
<whikloj>Oh indirect containers, they seem to be the most problematic
<benpennell>yeah, pretty much, although i've found it kind of hard not to use them12:17
<whikloj>benpennell: Earlier in CLAW land I ran into this https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/FCREPO-209212:19
<benpennell>whikloj: hadn't seen how to do an inverted indirect container, that's good to know. is CLAW still using indirect containers?12:25
<whikloj>benpennell: no
<benpennell>whikloj: what approach instead?
<whikloj>benpennell: We are going to maintain the references manually (or rather via a PUT)12:26
<benpennell>whikloj: okay, so they will be actual properties on the objects rather than container magic
<whikloj>benpennell: exactly12:27
<benpennell>whikloj: bit more management, but more reliable i guess
<whikloj>benpennell: the key was making changes idempotent, so dhlamb has just done a tonne of work to make all our changes to Fedora as only PUTs and DELETEs12:28
<benpennell>whikloj: i'll need to consider switching to something like that, i keep running into reasons to not rely on indirectContainers12:31
<whikloj>benpennell: yeah, I really liked the idea of auto-creating those links. But it becomes hidden and harder to manage12:32
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