Log of the #fcrepo channel on chat.freenode.net

Using timezone: Eastern Standard Time
* benpennell leaves00:40
* manez leaves00:52
* manez joins00:59
* Bram_Hauer leaves03:35
* dhlamb leaves05:27
* ruebot leaves
* cbeer leaves
* dhlamb joins06:13
* ruebot joins
* cbeer joins
* cbeer leaves06:16
* cbeer joins06:19
* dwilcox joins07:41
* dwilcox leaves07:56
* dhlamb leaves08:05
* coblej joins08:14
* dhlamb joins08:16
* umgrosscol joins08:42
* mikeAtUVa joins08:55
* whikloj joins08:58
* benpennell joins09:12
* yamil joins09:22
* peichman joins09:26
* peichman leaves09:54
* peichman joins09:56
* coblej leaves09:58
* coblej joins09:59
* dbernstein joins10:16
* benpennell leaves10:19
* coblej leaves11:06
* coblej joins11:07
* github-ff joins11:11
[fcrepo-import-export] awoods closed pull request #101: Preventing export of fcr:versions on repository root (master...export-versions-fix) https://git.io/vHn90
* github-ff leaves
* coblej leaves11:31
* coblej joins
* mcritchlow joins11:32
* peichman leaves11:34
* coblej leaves
* coblej joins11:36
* peichman joins
* benpennell joins11:38
* benpennell leaves11:56
* benpennell joins12:03
* coblej leaves12:48
* coblej joins12:50
* coblej leaves12:55
* coblej joins13:17
* benpennell leaves13:20
* f4jenkins leaves13:34
* f4jenkins joins13:44
* cbeer leaves14:03
* cbeer joins
* coblej leaves14:04
* benpennell joins
* coblej joins14:05
* coblej leaves14:09
* coblej joins14:15
* coblej leaves14:48
* coblej joins14:50
* coblej leaves14:52
* coblej joins
* CoolCat2012__ joins14:56
hi all!
im kind of looking for a "distributed learning object repository network". maybe am i in the right place?14:58
!ping15:00
<mikeAtUVa>CoolCat2012 is a Linked Data Platform implementation... I'm not sure whether it would be suitable for a "distributed learning object repository network".15:06
* coblej leaves15:11
<CoolCat2012__>me either, may i post a link here?
* coblej joins15:12
* coblej leaves15:14
* coblej joins
<CoolCat2012__>i am a bit confused https://github.com/memex/trails-proposal15:16
* benpennell leaves15:17
<whikloj>CoolCat2012__: Sooooo looking at your github site it appears that you could certainly store your data and the connections in Fedora, is that what you are wondering?15:21
<CoolCat2012__>i was looking for a p2p engine that allow me to retrive open leraning objects, so i could search the metadata15:23
im not sure if fedora would be in some sense do this work (in the github page it speak on IPFS)15:24
<whikloj>CoolCat2012__: Oh...yeah. Fedora (as mikeAtUVa said) is a Linked Data Platform. So the Memex seems like it is storing data and relationships between local data and foreign data. Fedora is good for the storing of data and making it available in a linked data context.15:26
<CoolCat2012__>i would like to have some backend, so i could have something like frametrail.org to have something like arcmedia.com
<whikloj>no experience with arcmedia.com, sorry
<CoolCat2012__>(imagining a lms scenario)15:27
whikloj is like a soundcloud for video...
whikloj: it oerlay students interaction with the video
and that github page propose that standards, as annotations on the video15:28
(i could imagine students asking with videos, but that would be out of scope)15:29
<whikloj>cool
<CoolCat2012__>i liked too :)15:30
that is a project....15:37
what i found was http://edu-sharing.com/?lang=en and the fedora. (as code)15:38
<whikloj>also cool15:42
so you want to build your own system like edu-sharing?
<CoolCat2012__>yes
kind of
if not allready hve15:43
<whikloj>sorry....if "who" not already have ?
<CoolCat2012__>if not allready "exists"15:44
i got the impression that fedora is very robust and for archiving purposes, not sure if it would fit.15:45
<whikloj>Fedora is very robust for storing/archiving linked data. I can see how it would fit, but it would probably not be the only piece of the puzzle.15:46
<CoolCat2012__>could you enlightme?
<whikloj>I am not a software engineer or information architect, so be aware ;)15:47
<CoolCat2012__>np
<whikloj>But depending on what you are storing, and where the "users" come from. I can see the new information that a user creates could be stored in Fedora, you could also store the "users" as resources in Fedora. Then you could link from the users to the resources (both internal and out in the world).15:48
But if you want the users to have an external starting point, then you might need to use a triplestore to maintain your relationships and just use Fedora to store newly generated content15:49
ie. Use Fedora : <info:fedora.user.me> <example:storesWebVideo> <http://youtube.com/SomeUri>15:50
Fedora can only store metadata where the subject is local to the repository. So if you want
<CoolCat2012__>fedora doesnt store the resource?15:51
<whikloj>It could
<CoolCat2012__>what is the fedora repository? (in the disk)
<whikloj>Soooo right now there is the community maintained system which uses Modeshape, but there are a couple other implementations getting started in the wild15:52
https://github.com/cavendish-ldp/cavendish
https://github.com/trellis-ldp/trellis15:53
But they are rather new
<CoolCat2012__>i see.15:55
<whikloj>Sorry that was a lot to throw at you, currently the codebase is built on http://modeshape.jboss.org/15:56
<CoolCat2012__>yes, im in the middle layer (between the storage and the interface). like the need for a semantic search (mostly i thin there is allready standards metadata on the subject)...15:59
* coblej leaves16:00
<CoolCat2012__>...maybe i should try boths! :)
* coblej joins16:02
* benpennell joins16:04
<CoolCat2012__>thanks whikloj. a last question, if it fit, does fedora allow annotations on a video resource?16:08
<whikloj>So that would be up to you to write, Fedora can store the video and Fedora can store an annotation, and the link between the two. But Fedora is a repository so none of this comes "out-of-the-box".16:09
You probably should download the fcrepo-webapp-plus or vagrant virtual machine and try it out to see if it is what you expect.
<CoolCat2012__>thanks again whikloj !16:10
<whikloj>CoolCat2012__: np
* CoolCat2012__ leaves16:12
* github-ff joins16:36
[fcrepo-import-export] awoods pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vH82Q
fcrepo-import-export/master de10479 Esmé Cowles: Filtering all inbound references, regardless of predicate (#102)...
* github-ff leaves
* umgrosscol leaves16:37
* github-ff joins
[fcrepo-import-export] awoods deleted filter-all-inbound at 494ddd2: https://git.io/vH8af
* github-ff leaves
* mikeAtUVa leaves16:58
* whikloj leaves17:00
* coblej leaves17:02
* peichman leaves17:04
* benpennell leaves17:11
* dwilcox joins18:26
* github-ff joins18:40
[fcrepo-import-export] lsitu opened pull request #103: Fixed failure test and renamed test (master...feature/fix_test) https://git.io/vH8FY
* github-ff leaves
* benpennell joins19:09
* benpennell leaves19:11
* benpennell joins19:12
* benpennell leaves19:19
* github-ff joins19:26
[fcrepo-import-export] awoods closed pull request #103: Fixed failure test and renamed test (master...feature/fix_test) https://git.io/vH8FY
* github-ff leaves
* mcritchlow leaves
* github-ff joins19:32
[fcrepo-import-export] awoods pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vH8pM
fcrepo-import-export/master 4a97b2d Jim Coble: Add Scenarios page and first scenario. Link page from README. Addre… (#98)...
* github-ff leaves
* awoods leaves20:16
* dwilcox leaves20:32
* peichman joins21:03
* peichman leaves21:05
* benpennell joins21:17
* benpennell leaves22:12
* dbernstein leaves23:41