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<ajs6f>acbourn: Tag me in for any help with that GraphStore thing, although I think it's pretty straightforward.10:09
<acoburn>ajs6f: It's tedious but very straight forward
<ajs6f>acoburn: Yeah, I get the feeling that we could do a lot to factor around in the ITs for kernel-modeshape up, but I just don't care enough to try.10:10
<acoburn>ajs6f: what I've got so far is changing the CloseableGraphStore is now a CloseableDataset, which extends DatasetImpl
ajs6f: so then the CloseableDataset's can be used in try-with blocks10:11
but they need to be cast to DatasetGraphs first via Dataset::asDatasetGraph
it's mostly the http.api.FedoraLdpIT file that needs work10:12
<ajs6f>acoburn: Did you invent CloseableDataset?
<acoburn>ajs6f: yes, in the same way we currently have CloseableGraphStore
ajs6f: my understanding (c.f. the recent msg on the jena list) is that Datasets aren't autocloseable10:13
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<ajs6f>acoburn: Hm, okay, I'd go ahead and do what you're doing, but depending on the form of the tests, it might be easier to have a static method Consumer<Consumer<Dataset>> doWithDataset(Dataset d) { return action -> { try { action.accept(d) ; } finally { d.close(); } } }
Sorry for the formatting.
acoburn: Because Datasets indeed are not AutoCloseable, and that's for a reason. I think I actually introduced the CloseableGraphStore, and that was a mistake. I didn't understand Jena very well then.10:16
<acoburn>ajs6f: yeah, there's _a lot_ of refactoring that could be done with the ITs to clean them up. your suggestion make a lot of sense, but I wonder if it might make more sense in the context of a larger refactoring of the ITs10:17
<ajs6f>acoburn: Yeah, probably.10:18
acoburn: With all our extra cycles and free time, let's do that.
<acoburn>ajs6f++
ajs6f: mostly I just want to get this jena PR into master with as little work as possible and as soon as possible10:19
<ajs6f>acoburn++
awoods:dwilcox: Who is doing the NY Fedora Camp with you?10:22
<dwilcox>ajs6f: Ben, Adam Wead, Trey, and @ruebot. Diego may join us as well.10:23
<ajs6f>dwilcox: Erm. That's a bit Hydra-heavy, but oh, well. I hope Diego can make it, but that's abit early for him, isn't it?
<dwilcox>ajs6f: Not sure what you mean by early?10:24
<ajs6f>dwilcox: I thought he as going to arrive in NY a little late than that, but I'm probably getting confused.
<dwilcox>ajs6f: Ah, no he said he will be there by then
<ajs6f>dwilcox: Cool.10:25
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[fcrepo-module-auth-rbacl] acoburn opened pull request #35: Migrate to Jena 3.x (master...fcrepo-1672) https://git.io/vKbUk
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[fcrepo-module-auth-xacml] acoburn opened pull request #54: Migrate to Jena 3.x (master...fcrepo-1672) https://git.io/vKbUC
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[fcrepo-module-auth-webac] acoburn opened pull request #71: Migrate to Jena 3.x (master...fcrepo-1672) https://git.io/vKbU9
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[fcrepo-audit] acoburn opened pull request #38: Migrate to Jena 3.x (master...fcrepo-1672) https://git.io/vKbTi
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<acoburn>awoods:ajs6f: the fcrepo-transform module isn't compatible w/ Jena 3.x b/c Marmotta's jena backend expects a 2.x Model14:14
any ideas?
maybe swap out the jena backend for the linkeddata or sesame backend?
waiting for Marmotta to make a new release (w/ Jena 3.x) would be a bad idea14:15
b/c we may be waiting for a very long time14:16
<awoods>acoburn: ajs6f has mentioned moving off of the jena backend anyways...14:17
acoburn: this may be one more reason to actually do that.
<acoburn>awoods: should this be a blocker for moving to jena 3.x? (I hope not)14:18
awoods: b/c I don't have much more time to work on this
<awoods>acoburn: I don't think we can just drop fcr:transform
<acoburn>awoods: that's not what I'm suggesting
<awoods>acoburn: what are you suggesting?14:19
<acoburn>awoods: I'm suggesting moving forward with the jena 3.x migration and have fcrepo-transform catch up next week
awoods: we can't have an extension module blocking the forward movement of the core codebase
<whikloj>acoburn++14:20
If you need fcrepo-transform, don't upgrade yet
<awoods>acoburn: does fcr:transform still work if the rest of the codebase is on jena 3.x?
<acoburn>awoods: no it doesn't
awoods: that's why I'm suggesting moving off of the jena backend to some other backend14:21
awoods: that's the fix — it's clear and straight forward, but I can't do it today
<awoods>acoburn: is there a particular urgency in getting jena 3.x into master?14:22
<acoburn>awoods: if only our API used RDF-commons…
awoods: it is an enormous PR, and I don't want to have to deal with rebasing
awoods: meaning that all the other "big" PRs are waiting on this to be merged14:23
<awoods>acoburn: as far as I know, you are the only one working on other big PRs.
<acoburn>awoods: right, meaning I'd need to rebase, which I don't want to do
awood: if you want to wait, that's fine, but I'll be waiting, too14:24
<awoods>acoburn: I don't like the idea of having the codebase in a state that is somewhat broken.
<acoburn>awoods: it's an extension module, not the core code base14:25
awoods: that's a _huge_ difference
awoods: we can discuss it tomorrow
afk14:26
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<awoods>whikloj: on tomorrow's call, mention that I am willing to do the rebase if that is the only reason to push for jena 3.x sooner than later.14:34
<whikloj>awoods: ok
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<whikloj>esm_: You are testing/using Postgres with Fedora right? Do you find it slower to start the first time?15:47
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<esm_>whikloj: as far as i know we (JHU) aren't using Postgres with Fedora 4, but I could be mistaken :)15:56
<whikloj>esm_: oops, my mistake15:57
<esm_>haha no worries
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<esm_>we aren't officially in production with FF, but will be at some point soon-ish...
<whikloj>cool, I was just trying it out and it took 10 minutes for Tomcat to come up
I wondered if it was normal for the initial database creation or something15:59
I'll see if a restart is faster16:00
<esm_>whikloj: yikes :)16:02
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