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[fcrepo4-swordserver] claussni closed pull request #7: Add SCM section to pom.xml (master...fcrepo-1558) http://git.io/vtNda
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fcrepo4-labs/fcrepo4-swordserver#32 (master - 78d63ae : Ralf Claussnitzer): The build passed.
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[fcrepo4] awoods closed pull request #807: Stop spewing UUIDs (master...fcrepo-1539) http://git.io/vkDO5
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[fcrepo4-oaiprovider] ajs6f pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vtjlb
fcrepo4-oaiprovider/master 79ac9ac Andrew Woods: Add SCM section to pom.xml...
fcrepo4-oaiprovider/master b36ea1f A. Soroka: Merge pull request #19 from awoods/fcrepo-1558...
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[fcrepo-audit] ajs6f pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vtj8L
fcrepo-audit/master 0a1dbfa Andrew Woods: Add SCM section to pom.xml...
fcrepo-audit/master a629a39 A. Soroka: Merge pull request #15 from awoods/fcrepo-1558...
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fcrepo4-labs/fcrepo4-oaiprovider#82 (master - b36ea1f : A. Soroka): The build passed.
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[fcrepo4] yinlinchen opened pull request #828: Remove javaee-api dependency from fcrepo-kernel (master...fcrepo-1608) http://git.io/vtjzx
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<f4jenkins>Project fcrepo4-T2 build #280: UNSTABLE in 5 min 38 sec: http://jenkins.fcrepo.org/job/fcrepo4-T2/280/10:53
* A. Soroka: Switching kernel over to use Java 8 types
* A. Soroka: Introducing Optional and more functional syntax
* A. Soroka: More meat-axe-ery
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<ajs6f>I'm here.
<awoods>All: https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/FF/2015-07-02+-+Fedora+Tech+Meeting
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<ajs6f>Kill it.11:05
That would be trivial to set up in fcrepo-camel.11:06
awoods: I put that list in the ticket for refacoring Maven XML.11:13
<awoods>fcrepo-build-tools
fcrepo4
fcrepo-message-consumer
fcrepo-module-auth-rbacl
fcrepo-module-auth-xacml
fcrepo-camel
ontology
<ajs6f>Or maybe he is one of the three logger bots.
<awoods>fcrepo4-client
fcrepo-audit
fcrepo-camel-toolbox
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<awoods>fcrepo-webapp-plus
fcrepo4-release-tests
fcrepo4-oaiprovider
fcrepo4-swordserver
migration-utils
fcrepo-build-tools
fcrepo4
fcrepo-message-consumer
fcrepo-module-auth-rbacl
fcrepo-module-auth-xacml
fcrepo-camel11:14
ontology
fcrepo4-client
fcrepo-audit
fcrepo-camel-toolbox
fcrepo-webapp-plus
fcrepo4-release-tests
fcrepo4-oaiprovider
fcrepo4-swordserver
migration-utils
<ajs6f>Can't that be done manually?11:17
We also need a depreciation process, where we say nasty things about software.11:18
<whikloj>ajs6f: is that software shaming?11:19
<awoods>https://github.com/fcrepo411:20
<ajs6f>whikloj: Is that possible when software has no emotions?11:21
<whikloj>ajs6f: carefully the interweb is listening...
<ajs6f>whikloj: I already know that computers hate me.11:22
<whikloj>ajs6f: and yet you work with them everyday. Masochism++11:23
<ajs6f>whikloj: paycheck++11:24
<awoods>http://jenkins.fcrepo.org/
<whikloj>ajs6f: http://www.vec.virginia.gov/find-a-job11:27
<ajs6f>whikloj: Already there. I am a state employee, which is why I sound so tired.11:28
<dhlamb>deprecate it11:38
<ajs6f>kill it dead
They can fork it.11:39
Just throw this stuff of a bridge.11:40
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<whikloj>maybe we need 3 github repos, core, extensions, and labs. core and extensions cover most people use cases. labs is new experimental stuff
<apb18>Yes, 3 repos is exactly what was going through my mind.11:41
<ajs6f>As long as be understood that the only account of software for which the committers take responsibility is the core.11:42
Put the whole Web in a repo.
<whikloj>core becomes core as ajs6f defines it, but releases could be delayed while extensions get up-to-date11:43
<ajs6f>whikloj: Sure, but that means that clear responsibility is assignable for everything in extensions.
<apb18>yes, I would imagine extensions could imply "somebody owns it" but not a responsibility of committers. I can see running jenkins builds for them, seeing what breaks, and e-mailing whoever maintains a given extension.11:44
<whikloj>ajs6f: Fair enough. The problem is that we (as a community) can't expect that one person to fix everything.
<ajs6f>With a timer. If they don't fix it inside a certain amount of time, we still have to release.11:45
whikloj: If the agency behind a given modul can't support it, _then the community can't support it_. The committers are not drowning in free time.
<whikloj>yeah, you couldn't wait forever.
and if no one is updating it...it's probably dying or dead anyways11:46
<apb18>I'm not sure a timer is even necessary - just provide a service of informing when broken
<whikloj>apb18: but how long do you wait for them to fix it before saying "too bad we are releasing"
<apb18>I'd advocate for not waiting at all.11:47
<ajs6f>+1 to not waiting.
That time-length is built into the release process. We don't, after all, decide to release in the morning and finish doing it in the aftenroon.
<whikloj>true11:48
<apb18>I mean, anybody or any community who has a business need for an extensoion has the motivation to fix it in a timely fashion.
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[fcrepo4] awoods pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/vqJ2V
fcrepo4/master 099c28d yinlinchen: Remove javaee-api dependency from fcrepo-kernel...
fcrepo4/master 50b639c Andrew Woods: Merge pull request #828 from yinlinchen/fcrepo-1608...
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fcrepo4/fcrepo4#3792 (master - 50b639c : Andrew Woods): The build passed.
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